David Marr, do you fact check?

September 21, 2017

In the September 19 Guardian article Where’s the biff? Free speech has won every round in the marriage equality debate David Marr wrote:

“One Christian at IBM and another at Macquarie University have both been targeted by a zealous yes warrior who reckons they should be dismissed because their advocacy for traditional marriage is at odds with the ethos of their employers. So have they lost their jobs? No and nor should they.”

Back in March this year I posted this tweet about Mark Allaby:

I also posted this tweet about Stephen Chavura:

I posted several more similarly worded tweets about both.  However in none of my tweets did I once call for, imply, or want the sacking of either from their respective places of employment.

On September 12 on ABC’s The Drum David Marr said Mark Allaby was “targeted by some trollish yes voters” (around 13:00) in response to Iain Benson’s claim “Allaby was asked to resign”:

 

ABC The Drum David Marr Trolls (Sep 12 2017)

In the above-mentioned Guardian article David Marr alleges [Mark Allaby and Stephen Chavura] “have both been targeted by a zealous yes warrior who reckons they should be dismissed”.

Who is this “zealous yes warrior who reckons they should be dismissed” David Marr?

If you are referring to my activism, please show me where I have called for the dismissal of either Mark Allaby from IBM or Stephen Chavura from Macquarie University.

If not mine, then whose activism are you are referring to?

I also refer David Marr to this apology from ABC’s The Drum where they clarified that my activism was in fact not related to marriage equality.

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Lyle Shelton

September 16, 2017


Does Michael Kellahan still believe the Sun revolves around the Earth?

August 13, 2017

The corollary to the argument Michael Kellahan presents (Why marriage should be between a man and a woman; SMH Aug 10 2017) is that it is ok to believe the Sun revolves around the Earth, because at one stage that is what people thought.

Just because a view was once historically popular does not mean it will always be fit-for-purpose.

On marriage equality, Penny Wong has reflected on her 2010 views and has modified them to suit the contemporary political and social climate.

It would bode people like Michael Kellahan well to adopt a similar line of thinking, because while it is ok to believe the Sun revolves around the Earth, doing so is going to make you look out of touch with the world around you.


Facebook’s hypocrisy when it comes to the word “dyke”.

July 6, 2017

There’s a story on ABC News about Facebook not coping with the word “dyke”:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/facebook-banning-algorithims-block-lesbians-from-using-dyke/8676284

There’s a page on Facebook called “Dykes on Bikes Melbourne“.

If you point out to Facebook that this page has the word Dyke in it, you’ll be in breach of the Facebook Community Standards:

Dykes on Bikes Melbourne

which will result in a block on posting for a 30-day period:

30 day ban

Seems more than a little hypocritical to allow the word “dyke” in a page on Facebook but not let people talk about it.


Shining sunlight on the hypocrisy and darkness of Lyle Shelton and David van Gend

April 9, 2017

The Age – Letters – April 9 2017

Religious reversals

It’s a bit rich for religious conservatives to be denouncing gay activists for urging boycotts of companies that don’t support marriage equality. They do the exact thing in reverse. The religious right and other anti-LGBTI groups held an international conference in South Africa last December, largely to oppose the international spread of marriage equality.

All delegates, including Lyle Shelton from the Australian Christian Lobby and David van Gend from Australian Marriage Forum, signed a pledge to what is now called the Cape Town Declaration. Apart from pledging to oppose same-sex marriage, the Declaration commits its signatories, where possible, “to refuse to deal with corporations” that deny their “religious truths”.

Brian Greig, Bayswater, WA


Pauline Pantsdown, The Australian and Freedom of Speech

April 1, 2017

Allegedly this comment got Pauline Pantsdown banned from the Facebook page of The Australian newspaper:

“Oh, Archbishop Davies. The recent events you write about were two people tweeting at corporations and organisations about the perceived discrepancy between their stated company values and the membership of their boards. This is hardly a headlong strike at the heart of democracy, you’d need a greater scale for that. How great? You’d need to go to the architect of the activists’ tactics in the marriage equality debate. – your friend and colleague, Archbishop Anthony Fisher of the Catholic Church, who bizarrely seems to be holding the same position as you. The letters that he got his Business Affairs Manager to send to Telstra and other corporations in 2016, recommending that they back down on their supportive stance for marriage equality, carried considerably more weight and threat to the status of those companies than two guys tweeting about board members. Had Telstra not stood their moral ground, the consequences of the possible withdrawal of Catholic Church accounts – from any corporation or company – would have been a more powerful slap than us individual LGBTI activists could ever hope to muster from our twitter accounts. It’s a little bizarre that you decry our small-scale appropriation of Anthony Fisher’s tactics. Climb down from that cross – you’re the ones who purchased the nails.”

So much for Freedom of Speech.


Carl Katter libels Michael Barnett.

March 31, 2017

Carl Katter libels me.

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